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Eating the Fantastic

I’ve been going to science fiction, fantasy, horror, and comic book conventions since I was 15, and I’ve found that while the con which takes place within the walls of a hotel or convention center is always fun, the con away from the con—which takes place when I wander off-site with friends for a meal—can often be more fun. In fact, my love of tracking down good food while traveling the world attending conventions has apparently become so well known that one blogger even dubbed me “science fiction’s Anthony Bourdain.” So after toying for quite awhile with the idea of attempting to replicate in podcast form one of my favorite parts of any convention—good conversation with good friends over good food—it’s finally happening. During each episode, I’ll share a meal with someone whose opinions I think you’ll want to hear, and we’ll talk about science fiction, fantasy, horror, writing, comics, movies, fandom … whatever happens to come to mind. (There’ll also be food talk, of course.) Please note—this will not be a pristine studio-recorded podcast, but one which will always occur in a restaurant setting, meaning that mixed in with our conversation will be the sounds of eating and drinking and reviewing of menus and slurping and background chatter and the servers popping in … in other words, it’ll be as messy as life. And hopefully as entertaining, too. And now … please pull up a chair to the table and get ready to dig in.
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Dec 9, 2025

Savor shrimp — and Steve Ditko — with comics writer/editor Jack C. Harris as we discuss why he decided to abandon his original plan of becoming an artist and chose writing instead, the chance comics shop encounter which led to him being offered a job at DC Comics, why he was astonished when he first saw the colors of Superman's costume, how his working relationship with Steve Ditko began, an intriguing comparison between Julie Schwartz and Stan Lee I'd never considered, the greatest compliment he ever received during his comics career, the idiosyncrasies of editor Murray Boltinoff, which comics pro was responsible for the flowering of comics fandom, how he felt about the Marvel/DC divide during the time we were both assistant editors, what it was like working with the legendary creators who preceded us, the legacy character he regrets never having gotten the chance to write, his Human Torch story which took 17 years to get published, the contrasting ways Marvel and DC treated their Golden Age characters at the beginning of the Silver Age, and much more.

Nov 26, 2025

Sample samsa with Naomi Kritzer as we discuss why a friend stepped up to start submitting stories for her, the question she asked Madeleine l'Engle when she was nine, why she spent years not reading reviews (even the good ones), her surprise at the way "Cat Pictures Please" went viral, what it's like when you're on "that" panel at a convention, why she wishes she'd told the early editors to whom she'd submitted how young she was, the many writers time has passed by (and how we hope neither of us will join them), what she was told by her mentor after confessing she wanted to be Ursula K. Le Guin, the story she sold to a market by deliberately writing the sort of story that magazine said it didn't want, the inability of writers to know which of their stories will resonate most with readers, whether the stories she's written in response to prompts might have existed in some other form without those prompts, how our writing has been affected by the times in which we live, and much more.

Nov 11, 2025

Settle in for an Ethiopian feast with Alaya Dawn Johnson as we discuss what led to her "life-defining obsession" with Mexican history, the allure of science fiction's cognitive estrangement, how the German edition of her vampire novel saved her life, the serendipitous discovery which inspired her first published fantasy story, why she no longer owns any of her rejection slips, which franchise inspired her first fan fiction novels, how a novella which didn't seem to be working turned into her award-winning novel <em>Trouble the Saints</em>, the way a pajama party led to a novel sale, what she means when she says she's a pantser while she plots, the way to determine which conflicting  critiques deserve your attention, how to prepare for uncomfortable conversations with editors, the importance of a single word or line to a story, the twin poles of ambiguity vs. explicitness, how Tanith Lee's <em>The Silver Metal Lover</em> inspired <em>The Summer Prince</em>, the importance of meeting the moment in which you're living, and much more.

Oct 27, 2025

Brunch on blueberry pancakes with Natalia Theodoridou as we discuss what it felt like attending Clarion the same year he was nominated for a World Fantasy Award, how Karen Joy Fowler's advice changed the texture of his descriptions, what he needs to know before beginning to write a short story, whether he's as confident in the writing process as his voice seems to me on the page, why the fact readers won't need to know anything about Bluebeard to enjoy his Bluebeard-inspired novel is a tragedy, the question to which that novel itself must stand as the only possible answer,  why it's so important for readers to be able to sit with ambiguity and uncertainty, the reason we've yet to see a short story collection from him, and much more.

Oct 20, 2025

Polish off pasta with Lara Elena Donnelly as we discuss the hot tub conversation which led to the sale of her first novel, why the contradictions of her Clarion experience were liberating, the reason her relationship to the writing process means she's primarily a novelist rather than a short story writer, her complicated emotions about the conclusion to her debut novel, why she got sick of the word "prescient," the gnarly origins of the perfumes we love (and the reasons she needed to learn about them), why she decided to start a service advising how to write better sex scenes, the novel she wrote without gendering a character (and the fun in following which readers assume which genders), how she and Sam J. Miller were able to collaborate without killing each other, and much more.

Oct 6, 2025

Tackle Texas BBQ with John Picacio as we discuss how he'd never have gotten where he is today without comics, why he initially turned down what ended up being his first science fiction book cover (and what made him change his mind), the reason he thinks of a book as a person he needs to introduce at a party, whether he pays attention to the artists who preceded him when updating the look of a book, why one of the most important skills for a cover artist is listening, the catalyst for his creator-owned, self-published projects, how his style and his skills have changed over the years, how his recent collaboration with Leigh Bardgo began, why he'd rather be a marathon runner than a sprinter, how to avoid getting caught up in the trope of the year when it comes to cover art, the reason he launched the Mexicanx Initiative, how stabilization isn't the same as stagnation, and much more.

Sep 25, 2025

Slurp soup dumplings with Eugenia Triantafyllou as we discuss the online prompt which caused her to write her first short story, why she ended up as a fantasy writer rather than a comic book creator, what it was like being nominated for two Nebula Awards the same year in the same category, the two types of naysayers who thought she'd never be able to write artfully in English, how she terrified Stephan Graham Jones with a tomato, why she never outlines, the reason voice is so important to her process, how a pantser handles world building, why she feels writing mysteries is easy, how her mother's memories helped teach her storytelling, why writers shouldn't steal ideas, but ambition,  and much more.

Sep 10, 2025

Tear into tacos with Richard Butner as we discuss the early influence of Harlan Ellison, the time he went through the same trapdoor as Harry Houdini, which creative career he decided at age nine he was already too old to pursue, the paragraph from his recent collection I adored the most, the ways in which setting can be a character, why he defines his writerly self as being neither gardener nor architect but explorer, how he's attracted to writing about the type of  characters Bruce Sterling once described as "criminally unemotional," what ambiguity truly means and why it matters, how meeting John Kessel changed his life, and much more.

Aug 31, 2025

Bite into Cheesy Pav Bhaji with Karen Heuler as we discuss how she found herself embraced far more by the science fiction community than the literary one, why she never consciously thought about craft until she had to teach it, the "dud" novels she wrote before she got to the good ones, the students in her writing classes who only wanted to learn how to write bestsellers, why Bartleby the Scrivener seems to have a superpower, the reason she ended up writing science fiction rather than any other genre, the way in which she considers her short stories to be kittens, which character took over control of her most recent novel, the influence of <em>The Master and Margarita</em>, our mutual dislike of writer branding, where we fall on shredding vs. saving our archives, and much more.

Aug 21, 2025

Slurp ramen with Mur Lafferty as we discuss the problems which come from being a discovery writer who sells a novel via a pitch,  how to play fair with readers of science fiction mysteries, the reason everyone's worried she wants to kill her agent, one major difference between Hollywood and publishing, why the character she often thinks will end up being the murderer doesn't end up being the murderer, how to deftly recap previous books in a series, whether going too weird might alienate a writer's audience, what keeps her continuing to podcast after 21 years, the importance of shrugging off rejections, and much more.

Aug 4, 2025

Rip into a lobster roll with Benjamin Rosenbaum as we discuss the perhaps true/perhaps whimsical reason he ended up in the science fiction field rather than literary publishing, why the story he found the most difficult to sell became his most-read work, how he gamified the submission/rejection process to get into Clarion, the way all stories set in the future are being read in translation, the reason he couldn't write for a while after his first Nebula nomination, the moral and aesthetic reasons the story of <em>Ghost and the Golem</em> ended up as a game rather than a novel, why he believes "I am very much a child of Chip Delany," the fascinating differences between the German and English versions of his novel <em>The Reckoning</em>, the intricacies of turning games into novels and novels into movies, and much more.

Jul 24, 2025

Pig out on pork belly with Curtis C. Chen as we discuss how he discovered <em>Star Trek</em> through the bars of his crib, how the superspy star of his Kangaroo trilogy was born, what it was like being critiqued by Pat Murphy and Ursula K. Le Guin when he was starting out, how taking voice acting lessons kickstarted his desire to write, the way to tell when it's time to quit your day job (or not), how his nearly five-years-long flash fiction story-a-week project began, his creative solution for referencing the 20th century in his future series, an intriguing exercise for writers when watching TV shows based on the written word, why he went indie for the third book in his series, and much more.

Jul 12, 2025

Binge on burnt ends with Aimee Ogden as we discuss the YA novel origins of her new novella and the way a watermelon radish gave birth to them both, whether we agree which of her characters therein will captivate readers the most, why she believes in "productive procrastination," how having twins counterintuitively helped rather than hindered her writing output, our opposing views on plotting vs. pantsing, the Bible story she can't stop thinking about, how she chooses the next best thing to write, her secret to writing successful flash fiction, how she was able to carry on in the face of rejection, why being an editor helped her become a better writer, which Ursula K. Le Guin quote she chose as a tattoo, and much more.

Jul 1, 2025

Devour a seafood tower with Samantha Mills as we discuss how the eighth novel she wrote became her award-winning debut novel, what she means when she says that novel was "kind of" outlined, the way fascism takes root in a society, the trickiness of writing a narrative with split timelines (and why she's never doing it again), how being an archivist helped her write about a world where archiving matters, the secret to writing believable fight scenes, her technique for switching up writing time between novels and short stories, the early influence of <em>Xena: Warrior Princess</em>, how years of research resulted in her award-winning short story "Rabbit Test," the way an early pregnancy test led to a worldwide frog apocalypse, navigating the difficulties of the modern short story market, the organizing principle of her upcoming collection, how she was able to power through her initial rejections, and much more.

Jun 19, 2025

Bite into blueberry pancakes with Silvia Moreno-Garcia as we discuss how short stories helped her find her voice, the way a gross dream combined with a teen cemetery trip led to <em>Mexican Gothic</em>, her love for abandoned places, why she found <em>Madame Bovary</em> startling when she read it in high school, how to successfully write genres in which the reader is more aware of the tropes than the protagonist, the beauty to be found in flawed characters, how to make sure parallel storylines are equally interesting, one technique she admits doing which makes multiple types of readers angry, the difficulty of resisting branding, the reason the term magic realism is overused, and much more.

May 29, 2025

Feast on oysters with Kemi Ashing-Giwa as we discuss her conscious decision to not take any creative writing courses in college, the eight never-to-be published novels she wrote on her way to <em>The Splinter in the Sky</em>, how COVID-19 led her to take a deep dive into tea (and how tea then inspired her debut novel), her evolution from pantser to plotter, her outreach to 200 agents before she found the right one, how to craft compelling opening sentences, her tips for writing successful fight scenes, why she was able to handle attending Harvard and writing a novel at the same time, how best to deal with editorial revision suggestions, her love of reading debut novels, and much more.

May 19, 2025

Toast writer/editor Craig Laurance Gidney as we discuss how meeting Samuel R. Delany led to his attending the Clarion Writing Workshop, the influence of reading decadent writers such as Verlaine and Rimbaud, why he kept at trying to get published when so many of his peers stopped, the many ways flaws can sometimes make a story more interesting, our shared love of ambiguity, the reason there must be beauty entwined with horror, why he’s a vibes guy rather than a plot guy, the time Tanith Lee bought him a pint and how that led to him coediting her tribute anthology, what he learned from his years editing a flash fiction magazine, and much more.

May 3, 2025

Break for brunch with writer Adeena Mignogna as we discuss how <em>Star Trek</em> changed her life, which <em>Trek</em> character she used as her screen name on fan forums when she first went online as a young teen, why she never wrote fanfic, the feedback from a friend which saved her NaNoWriMo novel from being trunked, how she discovered she's neither a plotter nor a pantser but rather something in-between, her favorite science fiction novel of all time (and the important lesson it taught her about her Robot Galaxy series), why she went the indie route and how she knew she had the chops to pull it off, the manner in which we gender robots, the reason writing each book in her quartet was more fun than the one before, why she remains hopeful about our AI future, how she finally learned she was a morning writer after years of trying to write at night, and much more.

Apr 20, 2025

Pig out on pork belly with Jarrett Melendez as we discuss how his loves of food and writing combined into a career, the way running comic book conventions gave him the contacts he needed when it was time to create comics of his own, which franchise inspired his sole piece of fan fiction, the comics creator whose lessons proved invaluable, how he knew <em>Chef's Kiss</em> needed to be a graphic novel rather than a miniseries, the way he balanced multiple plot arcs so they resolved in parallel, the magical pig whose taste is more trustworthy than any chef you've ever met, his early crush on Encyclopedia Brown, how he cooks up recipes connected with franchises such as Pokémon and Percy Jackson, the traumatic childhood incident which became the catalyst for his upcoming graphic novel, and much more.

Apr 7, 2025

Wolf down lamb with Carolyn Ives Gilman as we discuss the way her ideas aren't small enough to squeeze into short stories, how she shelved a novel she'd written because she felt her imagination at its wildest wasn't ridiculous enough to match reality, whether our personal archives will be trashed or treasured, the reason she doesn't feel she can teach writing, why authors need to respect what the story wants, why she's terrible at reacting to writing prompts and how she does it anyway, how she generally starts a story not with character or plot but with setting, the ethics and morality of zoos and museums, how she manages to makes the impossible seem possible, our shared inability to predict which stories editors will want, and much more.

Mar 27, 2025

Rip into roti with writer Tim Paggi as we discuss the story behind his <em>X-Files</em>-inspired juvenilia, the reason he demanded a refund from Barnes & Noble for a volume of Emily Dickinson's poetry, why a writing teacher (wrongfully) accused him of plagiarism, how the beginning of the pandemic was also the beginning of his fiction writing career, whether his recent Cthulhu references were intentional or unavoidable, why the <em>Severance</em> TV show has him feeling anxious (it's probably not the reason you think), the C-word he avoids using in his fiction, whether facing down audiences on stage helped him deal with rejections on the page, the many reasons he loves cosmic horror, the drunkest group he ever led through Baltimore on a ghost tour, and much more.

Mar 10, 2025

Mangia mussels in Little Italy with David Simmons as we discuss how he manages to give such dramatic performances during his public readings, why his answer when asked to describe his genre of writing is "Baltimore," the way discovering the novels of Donald Goines changed his life, why his wife was responsible for his first short story being written and sold, how he hopes reading him will have you feeling as if you're in a frenetic car chase, why for him the villains always come first, the extensive research he needed to write Baltimore right, why his rapping career is a thing of the past, the reason a story's opening line is so important, and much more.

Feb 26, 2025

Have a Nashville hot chicken sandwich with Robert Greenberger as we discuss our teen experiences at the first <em>Star Trek</em> convention in 1972, how TV taught him about the existence of Marvel Comics, the way George Reeves as Clark Kent made him want to be a journalist, the lecture <em>Wonder Woman</em> editor Robert Kanigher gave him after he dared give feedback, why so many DC Comics staffers walked around without their shoes on Fridays, how he convinced Cable News to launch <em>Comic Scene</em> magazine, the convoluted way Denny O'Neil was responsible for him becoming Len Wein and Marv Wolfman's assistant, how his editing of <em>Star Trek</em> comics led to his writing <em>Star Trek</em> fiction, the differences he saw in corporate culture while working at both Marvel and DC, what Clark Kent would have thought of his gig at the <em>Weekly World News</em>, and much more.

Feb 13, 2025

Chat and chew with Shannon Robinson as we discuss how best to deal with rejection, the way our opinions about print vs. electronic publication have changed over the courses of our careers, when an untrustworthy narrator can be a feature, not a bug, the many ways readers can be misreaders of stories, how she realized she'd reached short story critical mass and it was time to assemble a collection, the way the genres in which we write are often defined by those who publish us rather than the words on the page, what she tells her students is the only rule in writing, our contrasting experiences with simultaneous submissions, the ways in which she'll apply everything she's learned in writing short stories to her upcoming novel, and much more.

Jan 26, 2025

Munch on pepper chicken masala with Larry Hama as we discuss how cataract surgery changes the way an artist perceives the page, what really happened at a mid-'70s penthouse comic book party, Bernie Krigstein's anger at being asked questions about comics, why Wally Wood felt it was so important for his assistants to learn how to letter, what it was like being part of the famed Crusty Bunkers inking collective, why getting to edit <em>Crazy</em> was the fulfillment of a lifelong dream,  which Marvel Comics Bullpenner was the visual inspiration for Obnoxio the Clown, why getting his freelancers to hit their deadlines was never a hassle, the editing advice Archie Goodwin gave him early on, the real reason he needed to create that famous silent issue of <em>G. I. Joe</em>, the differing zeitgeists of Marvel vs. DC during the '70s, his approach to taking over the editing of legacy characters, our joint confusion over memes of previous generations, and much more.

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