Catch up with the award-winning Sarah Pinsker — this podcast's first guest — as we discuss how relieved she was her pandemic novel <em>A Song for a New Day</em> was published in 2019 rather than 2020, why she originally wrote that book in a song format (and why that had to change), how she loves being surprised by her own characters, why neither of us can bear listening to music while we write, the extremely scientific, color-coded process she came up with for organizing her first short story collection, how one of her favorite fictional tropes led to the creation of the original story she wrote specifically for that collection, why the thing that most interests her is the way people cope with what's put in front of them rather than why those things happen, the reason she prefers leaving interpretations to readers rather than providing answers, her terrible habit when reading collections and anthologies, how she's coping with the surreal feeling of living in the world of her novel, and much more.